Saturday, October 29, 2005

What’s Wrong With Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar?

Let me begin this blog by saying I’m generally opposed to criticizing anyone’s parenting unless they're clearly abusive or neglectful. Let me also offer a few disclaimers. I really think big families are great and admire those who have the ability to raise them. I’ll always mourn the two or three other kids that I would like to have had, if only I could stand the thought. I don’t project my own shortcomings onto others and recognize that not everyone requires an excessive amount of solitude like I do. Not everyone is selfish and shallow or as impatient as a bull on mating day like I am. I do understand these things, which is why I tend to respect people who make choices that differ from mine. However…

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/parenting/10/12/sixteen.kids.ap/

Why is the media constantly lauding Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar as really great? What have they done that’s so wonderful? Created their own cult? Did Jim Bob secretly want to be a cult leader but lacked the charisma to do so, so he had to just create his own from scratch? These kids might as well be growing up in an orphanage for all the individual love and attention they’re getting from their parents. I don’t feel it’s my place to dictate how many children people should have, but I just think it’s disgusting the way this is touted as so lovely and holy. It’s neither!

Michelle says that each older kid is assigned one or two younger “buddies” to take care of. This is the kicker though, when there’s a newborn, she is the baby’s “buddy” for the first few months, until he’s weaned, and then he’s pawned off onto an older sibling (presumably so she can hurry up and get pregnant again and the privacy and ensuing fatigue that necessitates). I mean is there not something disturbingly reptilian about that? Could this really be “God’s plan” for human families?

The media is always lauding her as a saint because she “home schools” all of these children. First, home schooling (while a fine choice in and of itself) is used here as a method of keeping these children from interacting with anyone to whom they’re not related (hello, red flag????). Second, if she sends all her kids to school, she’ll be home all day with a baby, a one year old, a two year old, a three year old, and so on. Why on earth would she send the people who do all the laundry, cleaning, cooking and looking after the younger siblings for her to school all day?

I read a lot of “well if they can afford to feed them, it’s none of my business.” Frankly, I’m not that impressed that they’re able to feed all of them. I’d much rather help, financially, a couple with a small earning capacity who have a few children they’re trying to love and educate properly than be happy that I don’t have to “pay” for these people to hurry up and bring all these children into the world for their other children to take care of. How selfish can they be?

The most annoying thing is that after each baby, Jim Bob is quoted as saying that whether or not they have another is always left up to Michelle. Really?! So if she decides she doesn’t want another one, are they going to commit the horrible sin of using birth control or is Jim Bob going to keep it in his pants? I highly doubt Michelle has any real choice in this matter, but to “leave it up to God” until she dies. It certainly wouldn’t be consistent with any of the other nonsense they spout if she did. By the way I’m not assuming she’s a “victim” here, she very likely believes as strongly as her husband does that this is what she must do.

I’m sorry, I wouldn’t bad mouth these people under ordinary circumstances, but I just can’t stand how they are portrayed as such saints when they're clearly sick individuals who collect children in much the same way a mentally ill old woman might collect cats. It’s just gross.

139 comments:

Lynsey said...

Very astute commentary - I'm glad someone is finally looking clearly at that crazy family.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how you would feel if someone maligned your family in a similar way on the internet. Particularly someone who doesn't even know you and your family.

MommyWithAttitude said...

Anonymous, I'm not "maligning" them. They laud themselves in front of everyone as being the holiest thing since the virgin birth, and I simply made a judgment of that and what they've chosen to publicize to the world.

Anonymous said...

You wrote just what I was thinking. Especially the part about it being similar to an elderly woman collecting cats. That exact thought ran through my head when reading about Jim Bob and Michelle!

Anonymous said...

I agree with your comments, expecially the part about the older sibling buddy system, Jim Bob and Michelle brought these babies in to this world as their responsibility, not the older childrens, but hey, look at the fame they are getting, not to mention the volunteer help on the new house or the monies paid from the TV specials.

Anonymous said...

I know the Duggar family very well. No, I have not been blessed with children as of yet and no I would probably not choose to have that many myself.

You should not judge people that you do not even know (or anyone for that matter). The Duggar family is amazing! Jim Bob and Michelle take great care of All their children. So I would say get to know someone before you assume things about them.

VLP said...

You wrote exactly what I think as well. If it weren't for the uniformity and inclusion, they wouldn't have gotten my radar going to begin with. Add to that their whole "buddy system" and how they laude the fact that the boys are catered to above all, ugh. Talk about literalist Christianity! People who refuse to consider simple things like audience, context, culture, etc. make me sick to begin with.

Jeanne Huey said...

I saw a bit of the Duggers on the Discovery Health Channel and something about Jim Bob made me so mad I have not been able to get them out of my mind. Jim Bob is the most selfish human being I have ever heard about and Michelle must just be delusional. Jim Bob, you are smart enough to read your own bad press, so this one's for you (two verses from a little country song my husband just wrote):
1. Thirty thousand children are abandoned every year in the USA, but there's 16 little Jim Bobs and another on the way, You'd think the Duggers might adopt they're so good at raising kids, but Jim Bob really doesn't give a damn about a child that isn't his.
2. Jim Bob is religious, but he doesn't go to church, Just too much chance that he would be confronted by the Truth; He's got his little band of clones and a couple of crazy friends, with their own made up religion that's a cozy brand of selfish sin
3. (CHORUS) Jim Bob Dugger what are those babies gonna do? WHen they find out you lied to them about he Gospel and the world? As I recall it Old Saint Paul said abstinence is best; WHy don't you try it and give poor Mrs. Dugger a little rest?
You get the gist. Jim Bob is one of the biggest hypocrytes I have ever heard of--for a guy who professes that it is a selfish sin to "control" things i.e. how many kids you have, he is sure into controlling everything they see, say, eat, do . . . a disaster waiting to happen. My daughter who came from a Chinese orphanage had more one on one attention at the orphange than these kids are getting. I will pray for them.

Anonymous said...

what will happen when one of these children wander away from the "family" and find out how most people live----------- public schools, regular church, friends other than their siblings,dating, driving, parties, college plans, etc. I feel sorry for these children. The girls wear horrible clothes, something out of Little House on the Prarie, dreadful long hair like their mother, etc. What are these parents doing to these children?

Anonymous said...

I don't know the Duggar family personally, only through close friends, and I know enough that if you'd read the Bible and see how many children the women had back then and God told them to instead of society, we'd all be better off. If I could, I would do what the Duggars are doing, letting God be in control of every aspect of their lives like they are and by raising godly children, this world will be a better place. The Bible says to be fruitful and multiply. God is the only one who can make us conceive. Don't judge others because when you die, you will be judged by God. Also, if you were in the limelight, you'd take whatever came your way, and don't deny it, we're all human and that's just the way God designed us. I look up to the Duggar family and pray daily my daughters find a godly man like Jim Bob. God will only give you as much as you can handle, and children are blessings and He will provide. At least this family has no debt, can any of us say that? I can't and I think it's wonderful! I'm 38 and praying that God blesses us with as many more children as possible after 14 years of sterilization that we caused ourselves, but had reversed almost 2 years ago. Thank you Duggar family for showing us we sinned by cutting off the seed God planted in us. We're also a homeschooling family and our children socialize as much, if not more than any public schooled children, and also have better morals. Done the public school thing for 8 years, I want my children to have an education, not to be told what to do or how to do it for 7 hours a day, 13+ years of their lives. Go Jim Bob, Michelle and family! We love you and are blessed by your great witness!

Anonymous said...

Oh for heaven's sake leave those poor people alone. I know couples who don't have a clue as to how to raise 1 child let alone raise 16! I have never seen anything ( outside of the military) as well organized as this family!

Anonymous said...

I read your opinion and felt sorry that you are so interested in being "poitically correct" that you can't see much further than that. I have two children and we are a homeschooling family. We did the public school thing and decided we could do it better ourselves. We belong to a mainstream church. I personally know a homeschooling family with 10 children. They do things similar to the Duggars. Their children are kind to one another. They are well behaved in EVERY situation and they get along with other children and adults FANTASTICALLY. Their parents love them and they know it. They have 3 children who are now on their own. These 3 children are some of the most impressive people their age I know. If I could have my 2 children turn out as well as theirs I will be counting many blessings.

Sometimes walking to the beat of a different drummer is the better path. I am thankful to God that I am allowed the freedom to walk to that beat.

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Elizabeth said...

I don't believe after seeing the programs on the Duggers, reading a few articles about their family, and reading through their family web site that they are anything but genuine. I don't perceive that they are, or would ever, make themselves out to be more holy than anyone else. I simply believe these documentaries were designed to be uplifting to those of us who struggle everyday through the tediousness of life. The feeling I get watching is "Well, if they can do THAT, I can surly make my situation work." The presentation of their faith is a crucial part of who they are and was never portrayed in everything I have seen or read as better than anyone else’s faith, or lack there of. They never placed themselves over anyone else as superior - or "Holier than thou". It is natural and very human to be fearful and judge, or even just question, something we do not understand; however, to make the scathing comments you do in your posting is simply mean spirited.

Anonymous said...

Its the hypocracy that is so sickening. Really, after seeing the "16 kids and moving in" show, is there any doubt that these kids are being pimped for a few free washers and dryers, a decorator, and more free help from the community? Really, where did all the furniture and fixtures come from? Either deals were made with the network or Jim Bob is independently wealthy.

Anonymous said...

Finally I find someone think the same way as me. I can not believe this is a family in 21st century US. For those who believe GOD will control everything, please do not abuse the bible with your understanding.

Addy said...

The Duggars are interesting from a cultural anthropology point of view. Why do these two parents choose this particular path, and what do they gain from it? Well, notoriety for one thing, and lots and lots of "gifts" and donated labor and so on. So it works for them. However, if everyone were doing it, the Duggars would be just one more over-sized family and nobody would give a damn one way or another, and certainly wouldn't do TV programs on them.
Personally, I feel very sorry for the oldest girls, who are having a tough life before they even leave their teen years. And if they perpetuate dear old mom and dad's way of life, they'll spend their entire existence knee-deep in diapers, runny noses, and tater-tot casserole. Perhaps they'll have an underlying sense of "is this really what it's all about?" Or perhaps not. Whichever the case, there's no question in my mind that these girls are being not only exploited for their 24/7 unpaid labor, but also being indoctrinated to continue a way of life that went out with the Pharoahs. I'm betting that in later years, at least one of them will scream and maybe even faint every time she hears the word "buddy." Buddy? That connotes fun at summer camp. THESE young "buddies" are cooks, dishwashers, seamstresses, and above all, 24/7 child care for the results of their mother's compulsive childbearing. And it's also clear that dear old dad Jim Bob couldn't give a damn about his female children, whom he regards apparently as so many worker bees. I really object to the way this family is being sugar-coated for public consumption, when the truth is that they are cult members who follow the extremist teachings of a self-styled "prophet" named Bill Gothard. You should search on his name and read some of the articles before passing off the Duggars as delightful, harmless people who live in a merry world of rosy-cheeked children and cozy sessions at the kitchen table.

Anonymous said...

personally i commend jim bob and michelle i think that they made a wonderful choice to have that many children. they are our future and if they want to have a large family who has any right to tell them they are wrong the children are well cared for and all are fed the duggars have the finances to have that many children so no one should tell them that they are wrong if i had the finances i would have that many children as well and no one can tell me different this is their lives and no one should tell them how to live it people wouldn't like it if someone started telling them what to do or how many children they should have.... no one knows what god wants for a specific person so to critize the duggars for wanting this many children is wrong.

Anonymous said...

I just wish she would cut her hair..and let the girls dress cuter. The boys are allowed to wear "non homemade" clothes, but the girls always look raggedy. It's a shame because if they didn't try to be so entirely separatist, I think more people would take them seriously. And I don't understand why they don't go to church. I fear that the kids will not have proper interaction with the "outside" world and might not even know who is out there to love. All the homeschooled kids I've known are either: well adjusted and extremely smart, extremely smart and horribly socially adjusted, or illiterate.

The real world isn't all that bad. I understand wanting to protect your kids, but I think it does them a great disservice to shelter them so much.

Addy said...

I'm from a large family, so am familiar with many of the problems that producing many children (more than five) create. I produced a small or medium-sized family of three children, depending on your point of view, of my own precisely because of what I learned as one of the older children in a big family.

The obvious analogy to human behavior is the behavior of other animals. In the wild, virtually animals face such threats constantly that they are lucky if even one or two of their offspring live. Where mankind has disrupted the natural scene and domesticated several different animals, both carnivores and herbivores, reproduction is managed and nobody thinks twice about it. In fact, it is taken as a given that a rancher will oversee the breeding cycles of his cattle to ensure the optimum genetic contributions to the new calf, kid, or lamb.

With the cats and dogs that are common household pets, spaying and neutering are required in many jurisdictions, and most sensible and humane people take care to have it done anyway, precisely because when protected by humans, cats and dogs reproduce so quickly and successfully that before long there are 36 where a year or two before there were only two.

So why is it so irrational or unreasonable for society to demand that human couples limit their reproduction to two or three children? In fact, social pressure to do just that in Japan is so strong that almost no one has more than two children. A three-child family is very rare.

In China, city dwellers may not produce more than one child per couple, and there have been consistent reports of forced abortions. While nobody wants that in this country for very good reasons, still China, the size of the continental United States, has a population of one billion. The need to control it is overwhelming, hence the forced abortions and mandate to have only one child.

Surely any rational person would not undertake to bring sixteen children into this world, and then compound the folly by isolating those children from every outside influence, so that they never learn in childhood and adolescence about the world they MUST deal with as adults. In other words, the parents are deliberately acting against all that is natural to all animals on this planet: to equip their offspring with the skills required to survive well into adulthood.

You can muck it up with religiosity as much as you like, and talk about "the Lord" deciding when a child will be created, but this is just idiocy. The parents, not the Lord, decide to have sex without the benefit of contraception, and from there it's a simple matter of cause and effect.

I'm a Christian and I believe in God too, but that doesn't mean I have to abandon reason and prudence and just have all the children I possible can have. I can think of no worse disservice to the first several offspring in a family than to endow them with numerous younger siblings who they will, in effect, have to raise while they are still children themselves, in addition to burdening these same children with household chores consequent to the huge domestic population.

I consider it the height of selfishness on Michelle Duggar's part that this is the path she has chosen. And, if Jim Bob has really decided to leave it up to Michelle, which is what he claims (though I don't for a minute believe him), then shame on him. Since he's identified himself as the head of the household, then he ought to start acting responsibly. Unless, of course, he doesn't care if he kills his wife in childbearing, or if his children, especially his daughters, grow up bitter and bent from their isolated, overworked youth.

Anonymous said...

i just finished watching 16 kids and moving in on tlc. i then googled the family and explored their website. i was stunned to find that these people consider birth control a sin. it must be nice to be perfectly healthy. i have to take it to keep from being violently ill and anemic every single month. i dream of having my own children and can't. and while i love my 2 brothers and 3 sisters, not allowing your children to socialize with other children does them more harm than good. talk to these kids in 20 years. see then if everything is really as peachy as it looked on tv.

Anonymous said...

The Duggar cult is the most repugnant thing I've witnessed in a long time, and the TLC reality show is the final straw for me--who is funding this dreck? The whole "reality" show is a nice piece of revisionist claptrap that does it's very best to portray the Duggars and their full-quiver CULT as a nice southern version of the Osmond family. The very idea of recklessly breeding "Because Jebus says so" is utterly morally repugnant in a world that is as badly overpopulated as ours is. And anyone that defends these lunatics seriously needs to have their head examined.

-- Chickenhead, http://www.ahkgang.com/

Anonymous said...

I hae seen the specials on television about the Duggar family and I always have the same questions running through my mind.."how are they going to survive in the "real world"...if and when they are let out in the real world"... I mean where is the individuality? long uncut hair, home sewn dresses, no pop culture, so "girl friends/boyfriends"..no social groups. They seem to not have any problems or hurdles to overcome and make them stronger. I mean the children talk and explain that they live a happy life, but thats all they know. They seem sheltered. Coming from a medium sized loving family, public school, gymnastics, slumber partys and broken hearts from boyfriends made my life happy and worthwhile..its how i learned, and of course guidance from my parents. Im just concerned how these children will development in the long run.. of course it will probably be a life circle, and the children will live as their parents are living, more children upon more children. again, reading the other posts..thier huge amount of foster children in the United States without homes..soo maybe try to stop having sex or Jim, pull out even! and adopt and save a child.

Anonymous said...

It cracks me up to see read that professing Christian's think having a large family is wrong. Do you forget the Old Testament, where families of 10 or more were sort of common? And who are you to judge the Dugger's anyway? They are raising polite, goal driven children that will amount to something in this society. So many kids from smaller homes have ZERO goal and ZERO respect for authority. All they know are video games and dvd's.
None of these children look neglected. They all look happy and balanced. they are well socialized as they have 16 other people to interact with on a daily basis.
And for those of you who cry adopt and save a child, how many children have you adopted?
I applaud the Dugger's. If you check out their website, you will see no arrogance. They aren't "pimping" their children for money or things. People are graciously donating, just like people did for the McCaugh sextuplets a few years ago. It's no different then people asking Extreme MakeOver to come and do their home.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad, especially the girls will never have slumber partys, or giggle with their girlfriends about dating and crushes, or ever go to a high school prom. thats sad.

the way they live may seem normal to them, I see it as control issue.

Addy said...

The Duggar kids have been on TV when their dad was running for office, yelling "Vote for my dad!!" They're trotted out for the media to play their violins (cute, but not very well). They've been filmed several times for hour-long presentations on their lives. They're poster children for this "Quiver Full" thing. What's that if not pimping the kids?

Anonymous said...

you are correct. you are selfish and controling. Your very idea to try and tell them how to raise their kids is the same as what you are ranting about. You had rather help some (pay) that only had a few kids. You are insane. I pay for my kids and everyone else that had kids should pay for their own. Like the Duggars. So they are not in a mainstream religion, so what, neither was Jesus when he started. You are judging them and that is something that Jesus told us only he should do.

Addy said...

Oh PLEASE!! Don't compare the Duggars to Jesus!! He wasn't even married (at least as far as we know).

The Duggars are reactionaries of the first stripe. Instead of having children and raising them to be able to deal with today's world when they become adults, the Duggars and people like them are isolating those children and filling their heads with a lot of pietistical nonsense.

I call it selfish and controlling to have ten, 12, 14, 16 babies and hand them over to your older duaghters to raise when the babies are weaned at six months of age. That is precisely what Michelle Duggar does. Those girls don't have a life at all except as slaves to their parents. It's sickening to me. I see nothing Christian about it whatsoever.

Anonymous said...

As a thirteen year old girl, I am apolled at some of the things you say. I am a Christian, and go to a public school in order to spread the word of the Lord. The Duggars are a great inspiration to me, and I have learned how to raise my children when I grow up. In the Duggar's decision to homeschool, I think they are very wise. Public schooling isn't that bad, but comparing my education to my friends who are homeschooled, I know which is correct. My parents put me in public school thinking that I could teach those around me, and they would do the educational part, but there is so many precautions that I have to take preaching in a school building, that it isn't even worth it. I wish that I could wear the full length dresses like the Duggar girls, but that is not even an option in my school setting. The Duggar's are not a cult, but they are an amazing example of Christ.

I will pray for all those who have judged the Duggar's or anyone else, and I hope that you may one day see the Truth of Jesus. I'm sorry that it is blinded in your vision. I also pray that you find God before judgement day, when he will judge your actions. No one's perfect, and as a thirteen year old young woman growing up in the Northeast, it's harder than you think, and the real world IS that bad.

Addy said...

Well, Miss 13, a public school is not a church. Other people should not have to put up with your preaching there; if they want spiritual exhortation, they know where to find it. You are not behaving as you should in that setting.

Instead of preaching, you might better spend your time in public school learning how to spell. You misspelled "appalled" and also, more than one Duggar is spelled "Duggars," not "Duggar's."

"Duggar's" is the possessive case, whereas "Duggars" is plural of Duggar. When I was 13, I knew that, but then, I didn't spend my time in public school trying to preach to people who did not request it. You sound like an arrogant young person and a first-class nuisance.

Anonymous said...

I think you misunderstood me. Yes, my goal is to set an example and teach the world the love of Jesus and how to lead a Christian life. It never means screaming "you're going to hell" at the top my lungs. I think you are incorrect in saying that people know where to find "spiritual exhortation" because I have found that many people honestly do not know. What I wanted to post was simply to say that not all the world thinks it's miserable and cruel to teach your kids good morals and Biblical truths. Part of this includes things that the world may not understand. Jesus said that "The world will hate you because of Me". If the world hates me, so be it. I have freedom of speech and I have never overstep my boundaries in school. I also have the right to set an example and teach to those willing to listen.

Addy said...

And I say you're a sanctimonious little twerp.

Give the public school environment a break. They have enough problems as it is.

Oh, and by the way, thanks for your instruction on how wicked the world is. Those of us who have actually lived through wars anda turbulence couldn't possibly figure it out without some 13 year old pimply kid telling us. Wow, what a relief! And I thought it was just me!

Your parents must have rocks in their heads if, as you state, they really did choose to send you to a public school for the express purpose of preaching to your classmates. What ever happened to learning facts in school? That used to be what school was for.

MommyWithAttitude said...

Addy please be kind. It's not a 13 year old's fault if her parents think it's okay to use her to further an agenda they have. It's sad and unfortunate but she won't learn what's wrong with that picture by being berated by strangers.

Addy said...

I sincerely doubt that this "13 year old" is really that age. Far more likely it's an adult who is posting. Hence my remarks.

Anonymous said...

You folks just don't get it.

Take a look at our society and tell me what's good about it? Teenage pregnancies at an all time high. Kids killing each other at school. Our local schools that are considered to be "great" have police on campus all day long.

Kids are on drugs. Parents are in debt up to their eyeballs. There is no respect for anyone in our country any longer.

If you haven't read your Bible in a while I dare you to look up 2 Timothy 3 and tell me what you read. It is a description of America as it currently is.

Everything is all about me, me, me, me. Don't even bother me about you because you don't matter. What makes me happy matters. If your rights get in the way of my rights then you must be wrong. We tip toe around everything afraid to offend people while offending everyone all the time. Just get in your car and try to drive somewhere. Because I waited at an intersection yesterday becasue the cars were sticking out into the intersection and it is not legal to pull into an intersection unless you can clear it and I do not wish to be the car in the middle of the intersection when the light turns red, some guy in his big pick up honked at me and I mean he just laid on the horn expecting me to go through the light to nowhere. I just waited. When the cars finally moved and there was enough room for one more car, I went. As it turns out, we missed the next light anyway so all his honking made no difference except to punish me for obeying the law.

My point is. Our society is pathetic. What we were founded on has been crushed by liberalists wanting to allow homosexuals the right to marriage, allow people to murder children and most recently allow a man to starve his wife to death because he didn't want her any longer. How sick is that?

We are homeschoolers and we know many families like the Duggers. It was not their idea to do the show. They were approached and agreed. They are not parading their family around for any reason. They simply believe God's plan for us is different than what the secular world has decided it is. In fact, our secular world is trying to remove God from anything and everything.

The Duggers children have learned responsibility and you can be sure they will not go around getting married and divorced and leaving children without fathers. These children know the value of hard work and they are more responsible now than any public schooled child regardless of his parental upbringing.

And you believe sending children off for someone else to raise shows them more love than staying home with them and being with them all day? You are very confused about love.

Look back a few years and see what our society was like. We were agricultural and the children had to work all day on the farm. Even my mother was raised on a farm and as the oldset of 8 she talks about all the hard work she had to do and that she had to stand on a chair to cook. What the Duggers are doing is going back to a simpler time when our country knew that hard work would produce responsible people. Instead, look at all our pampered brats in the world who can't even stay married because they can't learn to get along with someone else.

If you folks would put down your judgementalism for 5 minutes and examine the Duggers lifestyle and some of our American history, I think you would realize what they are doing is right. Their children will be blessed far beyond what the spoiled brats in our country will ever receive.

fleshia sturgis said...

God help you for judging people who you first of all dont know and you carry on as if you have to take care of their children. Misery loves company and it must be miserabel for you to see people so happy and living a Godly life. Her children are happy and well adjusted and they have their minds where they should be on pleasing God. Only God can give life and it is meant for her to have all of the children God has so richly blessed her with and it is my prayer that you will take a look at yourself and see what it is that is wrong in your life. You should try Jesus he will help you. To God be the Glory.

marie said...

Hello, I am also thirteen and I am homeshcooled. I recently watched the Duggars on TLC and I was very inspired. My parents have also made the choice to allow God to determine how many kids they have. So far we have 6 kids and my mom is pregnant again. I greatly love my siblings and my parents also. The Duggars are an inspiration to other large families who are feeling oppressed by America's (two children per family) society.We feel that the Public schools are wrong because they take the kids away from there family for 7 or more hours a day. the Duggars are doing the right thing by homeschooling their children and by getting involved in politics with a christian worldview. They are just people that God has blessed by giving them many children

Anonymous said...

You know I dont know these ppl either but LEAVE THEM ALONE dont start putting them down bcuz you have a holier then tho attitudeso they want 15 kids my parents have 12 11 living you need to grow up!!!!!

jigger32 said...

Why does anything like that matter?? If the Duggars want to raise that many kids then let them..i don't understand why some of you people would spend your time judging them and talking about what horrible people they are, how they are members of a cult etc.. please. get over yourselves. And the Andy guy..if you know so much more than a 13 year old girl..why would you waste your time putting her down?? If you know so much seems to me like you could go and spend your "knowledge" on something much better than putting down a 13 year old little girl. Some of you people are the most pathetic people i have ever thought of..you really are sad if you spend time after time on here talking about another family you don't even know. They could be great people and you might like them but instead of thinking about that you decide to put them down. You could be doing so much more than sitting at your computer thinking of ways to put down the Duggars.

Armando's Mami said...

Let me get this straight:

No one knows this family personally, yet, it's not okay to say negative things about them based on 1 hours worth of programming. By the same token, the other set of people who don't know the Duggars are allowed to drone on about how wonderful they are and how well-behaved the children are, using that same 1 hour of programming?

Methinks there are some hyprocrites who are Jim Bob and Michelle fans...

Betsy said...

Hey "Addy"
Wow, a tad too intense a reaction to a 13 year old, don't cha' think?
I have 4 kids, ranging in age from 27 to 18. My husband and I decided after our 4th that we had enough and opted for sterilization, which we both PROFOUNDLY regreted almost as soon as the procedure was done. We prayed that the Lord would somehow "undo" the choice we had made, but He didn't. I've watched every show the Duggars have done and I LOVE THEM!! Watching their family, seeing the peace they have, the joy, the community, the obvious love they have for each other, the awesome work ethic that their parents are instilling in each of the children, the lack of disrespect so prevalent in todays American families, and most of all the absolute TRUST they have in God to provide EVERYTHING is so refreshing!!!! I so respect and appreciate this family for their dedication to raising children/citizens who will go out into the world striving to make it a better place for everyone they come in contact with!! Betsy

Riley said...

Interesting.

When I saw this last year at school, I was slightly shocked. I wondered "Who wants to have 15 kids?" The whole time that program was on, I was thinking of that song by Loretta Lynn that goes "One needs a spankin and one needs a huggin Lord, ones on the way" Might be bad of me to think that.... but oh well.

So they want 16 or more kids, big deal. HOWEVER keeping them isolated from the outside world... thats not right. Homeschooling is great, I've done it in the past. I skipped a grade because of it. But to not let your kids hang out with other kids, go on dates, control who goes where, not let them have a clothing style of their own, and so on... I just dont see how that helps them.

Anonymous said...

The majority of people I know who try to homeschool are not college-educated. Most are right-wing fundamentalists who think anything in secular society (public schools, any church denomination besides their own, etc.) is bad for them and their families.

I have seen a lot of narrow-mindedness with people who insist that they are better teachers (of all subjects) than a college-educated, degreed teacher would be.

I attended a fairly conservative church a number of years ago. The pastor, at the time, had about 5 children but continued to spout out more kids as time went on. The pastor's wife's doctor even told her to NOT have anymore after #6. They also started the homeschooling bit during their time in this church. Soon after, several other families followed the lead of the pastor on this. It was then that I questioned why I even attended this church. Over the years, I learned that I was a lot more liberal than the majority in this church. Eventually, the pastor left to return to their native Michigan, but it was soon learned that pastor's wife was pregnant with #8. Yeah, about 2 kids AFTER she was told to not have more children due to health issues.

I eventually left this church for a number of reasons but largely because single, child-free women were not accepted as much as I thought. The prevailing attitude that only "Republicans" are Christians was quite insulting to me. I have no room for judgmental, narrow-minded religious zealots. I have little in common with anyone who still attends there. Sad but true.

Anonymous said...

As a P.S. to Betsy, who now regrets their decision to get sterilized, I must say that you can provide for those 4 children a lot easier than you could have if you had continued to have another half dozen kids or so. Think about it. How fair would it have been to continue to spout out kid after kid simply because you could have? I do not know where the lack of "family planner" got translated into being a good Christian. I have a number of Catholic friends, and I can think of maybe only 2 Catholic families in the entire town I live in who have more than 4 children. The rest all have 2-3 like most families.

Again, I will say that so many Christians stand on this podium of "trusting God" for everything. Then, they do not trust God to give them a brain to know when enough kids are enough. What a disservice to kids who are stuck in families that have 6 or more kids in them. How much harder is it to provide for them? With the cost of higher education, how many could even afford to go to college? Even with loans, it's a very pricey venture. I work for higher ed, so I do know a little something about that.

Having unprotected sex does not make you look anymore "Christian" to the rest of the world. Even those who do not openly talk against these large families secretly think they are a bit odd when birth control is readily available. Their logic for not using it makes no sense to me. Birth control was not an option in Biblical times (surprise, surprise), but it is now and there is no logical reason to continue to have more kids than you can emotionally and financially afford to take care of. I believe God expects you to know that and use common sense; not hide behind some distorted or misunderstood scriptures. Taking responsiblity for your own actions requires that we do not check our brains in at the church doors. To do so implies just how delusional and weak some people are.

I think you are smarter than that and that you made the right decision to stop at 4 children. People who take responsibility for their households are looked upon more favorably as an example than someone whose biggest claim to fame is having a dozen kids or more.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I am so sorry that you felt out of place at your old Church. I was a 22 yr. old mother of 2 when I first became a Christian. I was a 23 year old, divorced single mother of 2 the next year. It took me quite awhile to find a Church that accepted me, loved me and ministered to me. It was so worth the waiting and the searching! I know that, for me anyway, NOTHING even remotely compares to having a vibrant, active life in Jesus Christ. He saved me from an ETERNITY in Hell, as surely as He gave me the promise of ETERNITY in Heaven with Him. My parents were both academics, in fact, I come from a long, long list of academics, with my father having been a teacher while still in his teens, I have watched many members of my family choose academia over Faith. They profess contentment and happiness, but they have NO security about their eternal destination.....none. When I've posed the question to them about where they think they would spend Eternity were they to die tonight, I've always gotten the response that they would be in Heaven. Now, based on some simple questions that answer simply isn't true. I would ask, have you ever told a lie...even a small, "white" lie? Well, of course they have, all of us have, so what would that make us? The answer is a "liar", kind of harsh, but utterly true. Then I would ask, have you ever stolen anything?? Not even a paperclip or pen??? Well, if the answer to that is "yes", then that would make you a thief. So far that would be 2 of the 10 commandments, (they are COMMANDS, not suggestions), then the question, have you ever lusted after someone?? If the answer is "yes" then you are now a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart... if you've ever hated anyone, then according to God, you've murdered them...so, based on God's law and Justice we are Hell bound......until.....He, Jesus, steps into our place and gives us THE escape!! He didn't come to give us "peace, joy, happiness and security", He came to save us from Hell and from what's coming in the form of God's awesome wrath. Every single one of us deserves to be in the path of that wrath, but Jesus said, take what I'm freely giving and have a way out, a way of escape. It'd be like commiting a crime, a bad one, and having the Judge say that our sentence is paying a 50,000.00 fine or going to prison for 25 years...not having the 50,000.00, we are led off to our just punishment, when suddenly, someone we've never seen before steps up to the Judge and presents him with a check for the full amount...we would be shocked, and so, so grateful...and we would accept it. That's what the Lord has done for us, times infinity. I would encourage you, the best I can, to keep looking, keep searching and ask yourself that most basic of questions, "If I die tonight, where would I spend Eternity". God bless you in your search.......Betsy

Anonymous said...

You wrote EXACTLY what I was thinking. Personally I really don't care how many kids they have as long as they can take care of them. I wonder what Jim Bob does for a living. I find it very hard to believe that they are able to care for all these children on his income alone. I wonder how much of our tax dollars are helping to provide for these kids.

It also very sad that the older children are “assigned” each a younger child to be their responsibility which leads me to believe they have more children than they can handle. These kids didn’t make the choice to have those babies therefore they should not be responsible for their care instead of their parents.

Anonymous said...

Could these people be any more socially irresponsible if they tried? "Breed and consume" (and strain over-burdened and limited resources even more). "If I can afford it, it's OK" (that mentality means gas-swilling Hummers and Lincoln Navigators are fine... wasting gas and polluting the environment are of little concern).

Selfish baby machines? You bet. "If *I* want it, then to hell with anyone else. It's all about Me, Mine and My".

I don't need to know these people personally and yes indeed, I'll judge them as much as is warranted. When society in general is affected by the personal agendas of a self-absorbed few, it's not necessary to form a close relationship in order to see the extraordinary demands these people are directly or indirectly placing on others.

"Having too many children is like having too many flowers" prattles Michelle. How touching. Unfortunately, the amount of water used by sixteen children in just one week alone (laundry, bathing, septic systems, etc.) would irrigate crops and subsequently feed many times more than just one family's brood. How much garbage and sewage is generated by a family of eighteen EACH day?

Religious considerations? Yeah, RIGHT. The devoted posters who point to the Bible blithely ignore that more non-Christians than Christians populate the earth and thus, Biblical references fall on deaf ears. Try another rationalization to justify over-populating the earth.

Frankly, the Duggars' wholesome embrace of wretched excess is pathetic. There are already far too many children who need and deserve a stable home environemnt without churning out more simply for the sake of procreation with one's personal DNA. Rather than cheer on and commend such irresponsible behavior, TLC would do well to also produce a documentary that shows the pitfalls of spawning armies of kids.

There are far more compelling reasons for NOT having sixteen children than there are for tossing birth control and family planning out the window.

Sort of makes one wonder how many IS too many, doesn't it? At one baby per year, how many more reproductive years does Michelle have left? Why stop at sixteen?

These people are truly frightening.

Anonymous said...

To the poster who wrote the very long post about "salvation" to me, I will have to say that I have found a good church home. It is one that does not tout the virtues of homeschooling nor do you have any mindless breeders anywhere in the bunch.

I think it is insulting to people (Christians or not) to continually quote scriptures in order to give a pass to the Duggar family. As I stated previously, back in Bible times, there were no other methods for birth control except for "abstaining", which is something that Jim Bob apparently knows nothing about. It's fine to spout kid after kid out but do nothing to curb your lustful desires. So just how much faith do the Duggar's have if they seem to have that mindset about sex and pregnancy? That is a back woods mentality.

Those who continue to be in their fan clubs are delusional if they think this is a good example of a "good Christian family". They are an insult to anyone who has brains and are using them. The Duggar's are a selfish lot. I pity their kids.

Anonymous said...

Do you people have any sense at all? I personally think the buddy system is a great idea. Michelle probably has a hard enough time keeping track of 16 kids in one BIG house. It would be stressful for her to have to make sure that all 16 children have brushed their teeth, have clean clothes on, and have taken a bath or shower. Ive watched the shows on TLC and her kids show respect which you guys dont seem to show. I give the Duggar family credit for what they do.

Anonymous said...

Don't people have anything better to do than pick on a family that at least takes care of their own? At least they are not the kind who are having kids just for the welfare check and many are doing just that.

When people get so angry at a family like the Dugger's it is usually out of jealousy. And the most jealous will be the loudest about not being jealous. In fact, they will get down right mean about it.

Anonymous said...

People who are jealous would not likely bother to post about this family. A few people like myself think that the Duggar's need to know what the majority of America thinks about them. For every Bible-thumping fundamentalist who thinks they are so great and Christian-like, there are many thousands of people who would say that they are selfish, irresponsible and stupid. I am one of those people and it has nothing to do with being a Christian. The Duggar's are setting a BAD example for other families. Screw like rabbits and you too can have 20 children. Yeah, a real good role model if you ask me. (rolling eyes).

Anonymous said...

I was inspired by the way she runs the house, organizes the family and homeschools. Additionally, I think that those who put this family down are the families you might see on Trading Spouses and Wife Swap that are so dysfunctional and "ruining" their children. Look at yourself and the way you raise your children and see your flaws for what they are. Do not judge.
(I do not know the family. I am educated. I am upper-middle class and do not raise my family the way they do. I do see my flaws.)

Tammy said...

I think the Duggers are onto something. Think about it:

#1 They have their own church- NO TAXES to pay!

#2 Pimping out the family-A free house and furniture!

#3 The 'Buddy System'-Parents don't have to actually raise the children they produced!

#4 Calling upon God for everything-no personal responsibilty needed!

#5 Homeschooling-No outsiders to ask questions or influence cult members (aka children)!

I do have a question--what happens if/when Michelle starts having children with birth defects (like Down Syndrome). She IS getting older. Will that mean they keep going until her uterus falls out?

Stephanie B. Lambring said...

I just wish that we all had the faith in God that Michelle and Jim Bob do. It states clearly in the Bible that the Lord will provide for your every need. I did not say your every want but your every need there is a difference. You must have FAITH. You may not have the newest or the best but if you just have what you need that is all that is promised. If Michelle was to birth a child with a birth defect I feel quite certain that the family would close ranks and take care of the child so it could flourish to the best of its ability and love it unconditionally. You need to listen with your heart not just your ears when you hear about the Duggar Family because we could sure use alot more Faith Based families in society today. They are not relying on the US Government to feed them cloth them house them or educate them. As the saying goes Let go and Let God!

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Anonymous said...

ok i think that there is something wrong with you. my mother was a foster mother who has 9 children of her own. there have been in my home at least 20 children at one time and we all got individual time with mom and dad. ive seen the dugger's documentary and they seen down to earth and happy

Anonymous said...

You said everything and more that I was thinking as I read about this twisted family in the news on AOL today. I googled them and came across their own family website. What a crock of $%#&! Their home is run like a military boot camp. Let's have more kids so the older ones can do their job and take care of the younger ones because that is certainly what kids are for; your own little personal maids and babysitters. Geesh! Makes sense to me... Two words BIRTH CONTROL! Use it! Or like your other reader said, maybe Jim Bob should pull out, ha ha. I saw an interesting comment the other day that said "It's a vagina, not a clown car". Maybe we should send that to them via email on their website, you think?

Anonymous said...

Isolated? You gotta be kidding? I'm watching them tour the country as I type. They're famous. Homeschooling is known for hands-on field trips, independent learning, and the love of learning.

And Disneyland? Gee, I thought Conservative Christians are boycotting Disneyland due to it's stance on gayday, etc?

ONE great benefit of larger families is that the older sibs learn how to handle, be comfortable with, and love children through the continued need for their oversite (buddy system) of the younger brothers and sisters WHOM THEY LOVE. Good grief. The Walton years were only fifty years ago. You feminists/modernists sound like large families are from the dark ages. Argh. Large, LOVING, sacrificially giving families are the foundation of a great nation. Do your history.

Kuddos to all families that value having and raising loving, godly individual children that will contribute greatly to this society.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that in the first Duggar special, they shopped at Aldis and when they moved into their new house, their pantry was filled with high-end canned food! Wonder where they got that? Come on! They didn't miraculously become wealthy. You'd think with all the donations they obviously got, someone would have provided the kids with some decent clothes! I could do better at garage sales!

Anonymous said...

I have watched all of the Dugger shows with great interest. The thing that stuck in my mind was why. Why would they choose to have so many children when the world is so over populated? Why do they choose to have such a controling stance on social interaction for their children when people skills are nessisary in this time? Why do they say they treat thier children equaly but show a definate preference for the male children? I don't care what religion they are that is none of my buisness but I have read the bible many times and studied the historical facts of the bible era timeline. I can understand why God would say be fruitfull and multiply when the basic human population was less than 5 million WORLD wide. There is also several passages that state God was chargeing humanity to be the Earth's stuards. A good stuard cares for all aspects of his charge keeping a healthy balance in all things. For example a good shepard who has only so much land would never allow the rampant breeding of lambs it would lead to a shortage on food water and space causeing illness that may not show itself for a while but it will show. I can see how the Duggers would need a very structured schedual just to deal with all the kids but the vacume created by this ridgid family only lifestyle will eventualy be filled by something. For the sake of those kids I hope it is nothing that will leave permanent scars. There is an old saying the hardnosed preacher's kids are the wildests of all. I have seen the same type of my way or no way rigidity in smaller families. I had a friend who lived in one I was sad that our friendship consisted of her sneaking out her window between bed checks to whisper through the fence to me. It was her only social outlet. That is untill she turned 18. On her 18th birthday she walked out of the house when her parents were sleeping with nothing but the clothes she had on. She came to my house and my parents took her to her maternal grandparents house. She had never met them and only knew who they were from her birth certificate and the registry from her parents wedding. They lived in a neighboring town only 30 minutes away. When my parents got back it was 5 am at 7 am her father was knocking on our door asking if we had seen his daughter. She had asked us not to tell him anything so they lied and said no. When the police came they told them that yes they knew where she was and that she did not want her parents to know and that yes she was 18.
(she had taken her birth certificate)About 1 year later we heard that she had died from being in the wrong place with the wrong people. She didn't know that even a "nice" person can do horrible things. She had no true survival skills because she was so isolated. She did not know about drugs or dinking and she couldn't say no when a male "athority" figure told her to do something. It had been trained into her to do as she was told. I AM NOT saying that the Duggers would EVER do such a thing to one of thier children. DO NOT ASSUME I AM SAYING THAT. What I am saying is that extremely controled children tend to find a way out and most of the time it is not a pretty ending.

Maranda said...

In case no one's noticed, the world is becomming overpopulated. How is using up all the earth's resources any kind of "godly" mission. Frankly it sickens me.

Anonymous said...

Michelle is now Pregnant with number 17 due July of 2007, a girl to be named Jennier. I hope with this pregnancy she needs to have a hysterectomy. I only hope this for her older children to get a brake and like another blogger wrote to prevent her from have children with Down Syndrom or worse as she enters her fourties and her body has had the strain of 15 prgnancies with 2 sets of twins. I am worried for her health as well with this many prgnancies under her belt.

Anonymous said...

I stopped reading the comments after i read one about God gives you only what you can handle. God isn't in charge of what i decide to do this weekend. Maybe i decide to sleep with the neighbor man that was recently divorced as i am and get pregnant, he didn't decide that, I did! It'd be a bad foolish decision but i decided it, not God. I try really hard to see it from someone who is very church and God driven, but its almost like saying God this and God that is there excuse, there little loophole out of a situation. Someone could say i killed a man because God told me to. Bullcrap..... This weird JimBob and his wife, I feel all the older kids take care of all the babies falling out of her. Its pretty sick. They can't afford all these kids, didnt you watch how they always go to Goodwill or Aldi's and stock up on tons of cheap crap, and used shoes and used dresses for those poor girls. I'd be sick to my stomach having to live there. Live within your means!, Maybe up to a half dozen kids, spaced out kinda.
Yes, I do agree if the kids went to regular school, she'd be stuck at home with all those babies and toddlers, AWWWWW WAAHHHHHH TOO BADD!!!! That's her problem, she made a thousand babies, she can take care of those thousand babies... Yes, its alright for some of the kids to do some of the help, but not 90% of the help!!!!
I'd be insane in 5 days if i homeschooled all those kids. They really need to get out of that house and explore the real world, maybe they'll be great citizens we all hope. Maybe they need to experience things all by themselves instead of being trapped in that giant house....If they have yet another special on her having this 17th kid, yeah I'll probably watch in disgust. poor kids....

Anonymous said...

I agree with Staci Schoff completely! To use what's written in the bible as an excuse for whatever is sooo stupid, as long as noone knows if that's true

Anonymous said...

I hope one or both of the parents gets hit by a truck. Good God fearing Americans my A$$, friggin cult of crazys.

Anonymous said...

I soooo agree with you !
these 2 are control freaks and ae simply raising an army of free houseworkers.
with SO MANY KIDS OUT THERE NEEDING ADOPTION, wouldn't it be more christian to care for a lonely abandoned child then ?
I say having children is what they do after having sex. Just that- means to an end.
the world does NOT need culting crap like this !
Tricia

Anonymous said...

These people are obviously delusional Christian fucking whack jobs. The state needs to look into the abuse that is DEFINATLY happening behind closed doors.

Stephanie said...

Hi,

I am the mother of 4 beautiful children. We are expecting a surprise son in the fall. Neither my husband nor I believe in sterilization. However, we are learning NFP (Natural Family Planning). We do not want to "populate the world" but we will love any child that is created by our union. As you can see NFP is not 100% effective.

First, let's look at our society: After the 60's, we began really touting working Mom's. You were not anything unless you were a successful career woman. You would have to be ignorant not to choose your career first before marriage and family. So, there we went...down the path of later marriages, co-habitation, beginning our families in our mid to late 30's. All the while, women were using the birth control pill, preventing pregnancy...well those who were the "smart" ones. The latter were having abortions.

Now, here we are in the midst of a crisis. How many couples do you know that "can't" get pregnant? A large number of women who feverishly want to be Mommies are turning to fertility treatments and fertility drugs. Once successful, our multiple birth rate increases dramatically. As do our complications in pregnancy, premature birth, and cesarian births.

Now, in the last 10 years...mind you since all of these "miracle" drugs...the rise in autistic children has multiplied... we are now seeing autism in 1 out of 160 births. We also have more emotionally disturbed children, children with ADD, and ADHD. Some people boast that the rates have only increased because now we "screen" for these illnesses. Why you may choose to believe this jargon is beyond me. How many autistic kids did you have in your school? neighborhood? community? when you were growing up? Were they just not all "identified" then? HMMMMM? Why could this be? I would love to see the statistics of unplanned teenage pregnancies...how many of those children are identified as autistic? As for ADD and ADHD, my opinion and it is an opinion I have concluded due to observation: direct correllation between TV/video game over-stimulation and the lack of other stimulation from an early age.

People claim that the Dugger's are mis-guided. That they are manipulating their children into caregivers, not giving them a fair life. Not letting their girls dress "cute". Well, I will tell you, I have seen a lot of those "cutely" dressed girls, with shorts up their butts, and cleavage exposed to the world from a very early age. I am not saying, let's go back to the 50's. But, lets have some substance. Large families depend on each other to help out. My kids have chores. They do what they can to help. I will not criticize the duggers, but I will happily criticize a society that passes judgement on a fully functioning family that is healthy and normal by all standards. A people that turn a blind eye to thier own parenting or lack there of. "Go watch TV! I am busy! We are eating out tonight..everynight! Oh you want an I-pod or x-box? Let me put that on my credit card!" GIVE ME A BREAK!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

Louis said...

I think it would be wonderful if most women would stay home and have children and let men support them.

Anonymous said...

What a heartbreak to read such anger directed at A. a family you don't even know and B. Christians.
Whether or not you all choose to acknowledge God's Will in your lives or not is YOUR business, just as acknowledging His Will in THEIR lives is THEIR business. How people can pass such severe judgements on this family is breath taking.
It's NOT your business.
I mean, in some of these posts you are actually wishing one or both of the parents would DIE!!! Don't you think that's a bit extreme just because YOU don't agree with how they are living out their faith???? Oh, wait, I forgot, Christians are the ONLY reasonable target for this kind of hate!!
shame on you!

Jess said...

one, anon, they aren't christians: they're mormans. christians are people who observe the old test and new test as the truth. nothing more, nothing less.
and two, i agree. these kids are just a good way to get free stuff. i told a girl at work today that i'd have 17 children if it meant i could get free washers, dryers, interior designer, plus free help on my house. what's sad is that after all that construction, the kids STILL have to share a room.
i'd have run away.

Anonymous said...

I agree wholeheartedly with your blog.

Jim Bob and Michelle Duggan are incredibly selfish. Overpopulation is a serious world problem and either they are appallingly ignorant or just don't care. If they love children so much, why can't they adopt children who badly need a home? It seems obvious that they don't care about children who live in poverty and do not have a good home.

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES. I am not to judge you and you should not either.How sad is it that when God was taken from our schools we became such an awful society. Count your blessings that you have life. And pray that God forgives you for trying to do his job. I pray for your soul on Judgement Day. You are gonna need it.

Anonymous said...

The problem I have is that the Duggars are held up as some paradigm of a large family. I want to throw up when I see Michelle and JB "lovingly" hold hands and gaze at each other and no one ever raises a voice or a hand. If Michelle were my mother, I would jump out a window to stop hearing her sickly sweet voice.
Show the real deal. I grew up in a large Christian family and most of my friends did too. It doesn't make you unchristian if you get annoyed or loud or argue or don't like eachother sometimes. And if you have a big family, it gets loud, there are fights, and the parents aren't always skipping away in the clouds!
Also, the clothes! I am a conservative christian and I believe modesty is important, but for pete's sake! Let the kids wear normal clothing! It is easy to find affordable, fashionable and modest clothing. I know as a Christian, you are not to live "of this world", but you can be a Christian and do more good by not alienating people with odd dress and talk.

The fact that all the kids are all in two rooms and only have 1 closet is just a control thing.

I honestly believe you can have a lot of kids and be a good loving parent with well adjusted kids (living proof). I think showing a family in a realistic manner with the everyday struggles would be a more beneficial to people than showing this very odd (and very fake) family.

Anonymous said...

Please don't be blaming autism on not being Christian enough. It's a terrible, mean thing to say.

Anonymous said...

3:24 pm here again:

As an adult, I am still ADHD and grew up playing outside and reading books, not watching television outside the news until my teens. My family business dealt with making beautiful wooden doll houses, prime for imagination and quiet play.

I don't think I was overstimulated, I don't think my mother, who attended Catholic school, was not Christian enough for my brother, and I don't think there was anything lacking in love and support in the home we grew up in.

Anonymous said...

The Duggers are a cult. I am sure some of their kids will finally wake up and realize they are in a sick cult family. Why did Discovery even give them a show? They are banking off of their kids. I much rather watch the Rolloffs anyday.

Anonymous said...

There looks like a lot of good in this family. I would not want to be part of it, though, because I would hate sharing a bedroom forever and ever, and would hate the apparent enforced clothing uniformity, hair, etc. Today's clothing styles are pretty awful in a lot of ways, but I think this group could let their kids branch out a bit, at least. Still be modest, etc, but not so rigorously uniform.
I have to agree that I do not think it right to saddle the older kids with the younger ones year in and year out.

As far as homeschooling goes, I have done it. It is exhausting. I felt it necessary for a couple of reasons. I wish I had not had to.
Just reading about their schedule numbs my mind- I skipped much of that.... No room for digression or creativity, or freedom. But our schools are no longer safe in a lot of ways, so this is becoming necessary for some people.

I looked at their website- they seem to believe that they are Christians. If they are actually Mormons, then technically, they are not Christians. Are they Joseph Smith believers? Too bad- they have some reality to face in that dept.........but thankfully, they are not polygamous. Good Lord, if they were, JimBob would likely be father of several times as many by now. Thank the Lord for this, anyway.


The debt-free living angle would be good for more Americans to learn. Looks like the Duggars really did not achieve that themselves, actually. They have had significant injections of help along the way.

These folks look like they are not suffering the way so many are these days. I believe their kids will be good citizens, and not helpless.Don't know if I would call this a cult. It is a big, uniformity-oriented biological unit.
It would be interesting to see how the older ones do over the next several years. My oldest was born in 85, theirs in 88? Should get some info over next couple years about the older ones' lives.

I have to agree with them that there are dangers in contraception. I think our scientists need to keep up the research- we cannot all do the "Duggar." Many of us cannot support huge families and have problems we do not want passed down to innocent people. I have two kids and I hate that I am not healthier for them( an hereditary situation) and that they seem to have some conditions too, but we all have lives.


The Duggar kids will always have someone to turn to that they are related to. Sometimes I have fretted that my own family is so small that when I die there will not be many to help them in life. Their dad is in heaven and many older relatives are there too.

Thankfully, these folks are only a show subject BECAUSE of the size and organizational remarkability of their home. We are not all going to be that rigid or prolific- plenty of room for other subjects, other times.


I never watch any reality shows at all....stumbled over something on these folks a while back. Would not watch more, probably.
And yes- a bit of scandal can be, well, delicious. I am a bad girl! (Yes, I am a saved Baptist and I still can't wean myself off of some crime shows(the mystery factor) and "fal-de-rol" now and the.....)In other words,I prefer more variety! But I am always saddened by human wretchedness and degradation, and I definitely try to do my part, a bit here, a bit there, about other people's suffering.


I do not know anything about whether they favor their boys in some way, but if they do, then I am disgusted. Quit on that, Duggars! Your girls are saving you!
One or more of them may become something more than any of your boys, did you know that?

I would hate that huge and cold-looking of a house, too. Hopefully, they will use their minds to quit the constant breeding before saddling the older kids with care of retarded babies as well. I hope none of the Duggar kids multiply like the "folks." --the kids all deserve some peace and quiet and individuality at some point. I hope they can find it.

Anonymous said...

I am wondering if he control includes marriage at 13. Anyone else ever noticed that all of the "older" girls, say Ginger and up, wear wedding bands on their left ring finger? None of the boys do so. If they are marrying them off, aren't there laws to protect them?

N. Maendel said...

Perhaps those rings are "promise rings"--the latest freaky fundamentalist trend whereby daddy's girls make a promise to daddy that he'll be the only guy in their life and they won't run off and have sex before marriage. Talk about control! Now, seriously. At what point does this seem a bit disturbing? Isn't daddy's wifey (aka mommy) enough-ey? Maybe she could use an extra ring...hmmmmmmm..

Anonymous said...

I think that Jim Bob and Michelle by putting themselves in the public eye, accepting donations, being on tv, are fair game. If they really don't want people to comment on their lives then they should not seek out the attention. Having said that, I don't get the media's fascination with these big families who apparently don't believe in birth control or won't use it. The little Duggars look like clones and the thought of then multiplying at the same pace as their parents is absolutely frightening.

laterain said...

I love the large percentage of comments here that are made by people who have chosen to remain anonymous. It's a shame that more of you "Duggar defenders" aren't willing to identify yourself.

and this is sick and wrong of me, but if Michelle pops out #18 and it's less than "perfect", as one "anonymous" folk speculated above, then that "little buddy" will be God's Special Angel who will be most especially loved by all. Maybe even given TWO "buddies".

Even if it's a girl who *can't* help with the housework.

Anonymous said...

I agree that they are not saints and dont get media attention other than the shear number of children they have but its not for you to say they are sick. I dont see them as sick at all. There is nothing wrong with having a family that big and nothing wrong with the kids helping out. Its exactly the way families functioned before we all got used to spoiling them with their every want and need. Service/Love is the greatest commandment God gives us and that is what they are teaching their kids. Im certain Michelle does her part or else the older ones would be running haywire. And dont assume they homeschool to keep them isolated. That makes you look just plain ignorant. Unless you homeschool you have NO idea whats its like and why people do it.
Dont assume so much.

Becca in Nevada said...

You know, most of the people here are just uneducated morons who don't have a clue as to what is really going on out there. BTW, I am a Duggar defender and I have identified myself. So blow it out of your smoke hole. In fact, you can e-mail me if ya got something to say: Stingstress@Excite.com
I find it more offensive when it's a person having many children while living off of the welfare system, which the Duggar family is not doing. They support their children, I believe they deal with real estate.
Also, it has been shown by both psychological and scientific study that home schooled children tend to advance more in the college education process because they are not forced to conform to a set standard learning curve which disables those children that may not learn as fast. Because home schooled children are able to learn and grow AT THEIR OWN PACE, they tend to do much better in the advanced learning environments such as colleges and major university. By the way people, parents that do home schooling do have to follow state and federal mandates concerning testing every 6 months to ensure that the children are in fact learning, at the very least, at levels of children of similar ages. Most home schooled children are actually at a level or two above children in the public school systems that are in the same age range. Check with the New England Journal Of Medicine.
I have watched the very same Discovery Health channel shows on the Duggar family, and I am amazed, that while many of you claim to have seen them, you have missed so much!
The girls do household chores, AS DO THE BOYS. EVERYONE in the family helps out. As for the "BUDDY SYSTEM" so many have criticized, are you jack offs really going to sit there and say an older sibling never had to do something for you? That this practice is only limited to the Duggar family? I think not! it also tends to occur in families with a much smaller amount of children. This teaches responsibility, and creates a strong sense of family, something that seems to be lacking in today's society. perhaps if more parents chose to be more active in the lives of their children there would not be 12, 13, 14, and 15 year old girls acting like whores and trying to get knocked up and young boys going around shooting everything up! This also teaches skills that can be useful should some one want to become a doctor, nurse, teacher, etc.
As a teacher, I use many skills the girls and boys of this family are learning. I've been a teacher for more than 10 years. I use many of these skills on a daily basis. Cooking, cleaning, changing diapers, organization, etc may sound trivial to some, I work with special needs children daily and I do that and more daily.
NOW, let's discuss this HUGE house the Duggar family live in. They have a huge nice house because THEY BUILT IT BY HAND! They did that themselves and in the process taught both the boys AND the girls valuable skills that open the doors to many employment opportunities. Last I checked, construction is a noble profession, my father did construction for 30 years before he retired. How many can have the pride in saying I helped build my own home, not many of you I bet. I helped my father build the house that he, my step mom and half sister live in. I bet that the skills I learned with that will save me a ton if something in my own home needs to be fixed. hey, plus i can make shelving units, desks, etc and make extra income to help support my family too! WOW! A skill that could actually make me money!
Oh and by the way, the older children do have lives that are active and consist of activities outside of the family and house, they stated that in the program on discovery health.
Sounds to me like a bunch of pissy little whiners would rather make this a religious issue rather than just admit they are jealous because this family has become famous and yours has not. Tough shit! Do something useful with your life rather than sitting there and bitching and maybe you can bring some notoriety to yourself and your own families and stop hashing on this family. it's petty and childish, not to mention worthless and idiotic to say the least. Go out and educate yourselves before you speak. Also, if you're going to quote a T.V. show, watch the whole damned show, not just a small part. I don't personally know the Duggar family, but I would commend them on being able to keep their children strong and well rounded. it's a damned shame more families do not do that and provide that sort of stability for their children. We would have far less problems today if more kids were raised with these kinds of ethics and morals.
By the way, I am not some liberal christian that thinks this is god's will, I am a non Christian person that thinks some of you need to just shut up and get off the Internet for a while and stop worrying about other people's families and focus more on your own.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, I don't agree with your opinion at all.

Sherry said...

Why would some of you people choose to be so mean and cruel to people you don't even know? These people don't ask you or anyone else for anything. You don't have the power to change a thing about their life, so why are you fussing over the way they choose to live their life, and the way they choose to raise their children. They have that right, just the same as you do. They seem to be kind, cosiderate, mannerly, and respectful. They have a love for one another that shows when you see them inter-act with one another, and a peaceful household. They are very quick to tell you that God is in charge of their life, and that they RELY fully on Him.I don't understand, whats wrong with this picture. If the whole world were to be like this, we might not have any thing to fuss about. As long as they are giving God the credit for everything, then I for one say "Leave them alone," they arn't hurting you. Take a look at your own life, when you point one finger at someone, there are always 3 that point back at yourself. I will pray that each one of you will find the Lord before it's to late. You don't want to spend ETERNITY in HELL. Please, find someone and talk to them about becoming a born again believer. Then you will understand Jim Bob and Michelle Duggers ways.

Anonymous said...

Wow Staci...sounds like someone's bitter at something that didn't go the way they wanted to in their life. Why else would a woman spend time criticizing other families instead of just keeping her nose in her own.

norma said...

there are good and bad points to this family but it really comes down to the fact that God really did put us on earth to procreate or at least to try to raise a family whether it is your own biologically or adopted. they have made their choice and i truly see it as nothing other than God's blessings to have that many healthy children but i really think they would be just as happy with children that are not as perfect. as far as isolating them, i don't think that was their intention in home schooling the children because they still socialize with other kids. i think the kids are better off, they have a well rounded education that they probably would not have received at school. when was the last time you saw a kid taking piano and violin at school? also i think the boys work just as hard as the girls and why shouldn't the older ones learn how to care for the younger ones, it gives a child responsibilty early on, something that most kids in society lack. this kids at not exposed to all the crap you see in other schools, t.v., the language and the way most kids talk down to their parents. i have 2 kids 7 & 9 years old and they do chores and go to church with my husband and i, play with friends that i deem appropiate and all four of us spend a lot of time together having fun. and still my kids sometimes act like pure brats and i ask myself what is wrong? it's negative influence from everything that surrounds us, for as much as i teach my kids moral values and respect, they are still influenced negatively which is something the duggars don't have to deal with because of the way they are raising their kids. although i think the dress code is kind of extreme i can see how it avoids todays problems of girls looking like little hootchies and the hanna montana wannabes. with all the rampant pedophiles looking at little girls, it's a good thing that girls cover up a bit more but i agree they really should stop the little house on the prairie look and try to sew themselves prettier dresses maybe a belt would help and nicer patterns and fabrics. overall i really see the love they all have for each other and that is something a lot of families don't have. God Bless them always , i admire their dedication to God and to each other.

Anonymous said...

Wow...wow! I've read the great majority of comments on this blog. I am familiar with the Duggar family via television, articles, and their website. I am a happily married wife and a loving homeschooling mother of 5 beautiful children. As I have read your responses, I am more confident in our choice to teach our children at home and to raise them with morals, standards, and values that are mirror opposites of society today. Those who have slung insults at the Duggar family and passed judgment on things you know little about are exactly who I encourage my children to pay close attention to and learn NOT to become! I sincerely hope that whatever unsettled anger is seeded inside of you folks makes way for a more serene inner peace...

Aunt Connie said...

I worked at a state health department. A man brought in his five daughters to have pregnancy tests to see if any of them had been "knocked up." He was wondering if they would be able to get more welfare if they had some grandkids. True story.
I don't think any of the Duggers have been caught taking drugs, stealing, getting piercings, tatoos, sleeping around, spending the day in a hot tub, hanging out in bars,etc. This family is raising good citizens, people who know how to work, people who are kind to one another, people who help others. They are clean, kind, helpful, good. Please, oh please, let there be more families like these folks.

Anonymous said...

The mother often speaks of "self control" with respect to the younger childrens' discipline. Hmmmmm..... maybe Daddy could practice some self control.

Anonymous said...

How are they going to send all those kids to college? That is a responsibility for any parent that wants their children to live a financially secure life in the modern U.S. Hopefully they're saving the money they're making on these reality shows for that purpose.

Voice of reason said...

I take offense at Michelle's comments concerning their financial status. One example is in the opening dialog of the show when she says they own several commercial properties and the rent money helps to "make ends meet". There is nothing wrong or sinful in being well off, (or dare I say "rich"). However, an idiot can figure out the Duggers are well off. The statement, "to help make ends meet", carries a suggestion they are needy. This suggestion that they are in need results in "donations" from companies, individuals, etc as if the Duggers were a charity. I would have more respect for them if they just said we are very blest by God with an abundance that allows them to maintain their comfortable lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone ever notice that they first were on TV with 14 kids. Then interest started to wain and Michelle got pregnant again and again until they got their own show. Then once again interest began to dwindle and bang, Michelle is on the Today Show to announce number 18! Can you count the amount of times Michelle says, "I", "Me", "My", "Mine", etc???

Anonymous said...

it completeley blows my mind that people are posting things on the internet about people they DO NOT KNOW PERSONALLY. It's sickening really, if the Duggars decide to have 50 kids i don't see why it is soooo upsetting to all of you. They are not harming anyone, and as far as I am concerned I believe their children are well cared for. As for the "buddy system", i grew up with that somewhat ( although i had far less siblings) the weaned baby is not "SHOVED OFF" to an older sibling, Mom needs help, and when you have 17 children we'll talk. Remember the little saying it takes a village to raise a child?
Children are a blessing from the Lord (look it up in Proverbs)

Anonymous said...

When someone chooses to become a public figure thru politics or celebrity, they become fair game for criticism. Jim-Bob is a politician, and they are all “celebrities” now thru their decision become a TV show. As far as posting statements concerning people we do not know, the children being “well cared for” is a posting about people you don’t personally know. When Mother-Dugger has too many children for her to care for, (ie; she needs “help”), it does begin to effect other people, namely the older children. This is why Jim-Bob and Michelle do not allow the children to attend school or church. If these children are allowed to be away from the home for 8 hours per day, Mommy would have to care for all the children under 6 instead of her servants. The Duggers are politicians, used car dealers, home schoolers, home churchers, & recipients of charitable donations, how many more red flags need to wave before we wake up? I hope we don’t hear about some weird stuff going on in the Dugger household like that cult in Texas.

Anonymous said...

First of all, to all of those making fun of christians shame on you. If you only knew the joy and comfort that accepting Christ can bring to you and if you only knew where it is you will end up without Him in your life you would change your ways.

I really don't believe anyone likes it when someone else tells them how they should raise their children nor do I think it is anyone's business.

If these children were hurting in some way or weren't happy they would be acting out in some way or another which obviously they aren't.

I have two children and would not send them to public school for anything in the world. Everyone wonders what is this world coming to and why our youth are the way they are. Why do they bring guns to school, why do they not know how to work like children 100 years ago did, why is that they are so overweight, why do they talk the way they do, why do so many of them have babies at 13/14/15/16 and so on, why do they not respect any of their elders and the list of questions go on and on. It is one simple answer, because they took God out of everything involving the schools. Everything your children learn in this world means nothing if they don't learn to accept Christ in their hearts. They can't take anything they learn in this world with them when they go and they can't get in to heaven without Jesus Christ. As far as I am concerned the only children that come out of public schools are lazy and worthless children.

I only have two children but I love each of them more than words can say and if I had ten or twelve that would be the same. Who knows maybe I will have ten or twelve. Also just because they have 17 children doesn't mean that they don't get any love from their parents and is it so wrong to ask your children to do chores around the house. If they aren't helping out what are they doing, playing video games (which by the way is just so educational and helpful towards who they will be in the futre).

I just think that these children will do so much with their lives, so much more than the majority of children who are raised with one or two other siblings and go to public school.

Also if they do grow up and preach God's word why is that so bad? They will be greatly rewarded in heaven.

The only joy us Christians get is knowing that when we get to heaven we will no longer have to answer to the rest of you and you will finally learn that we were right all along but for you it will be too late.

Anonymous said...

I just wonder what all these kids has done to her body .. she must have some health issues with haveing 18 kids .why don't they just join a morman church already cause they are perfect for it...thats what mormans like lots of baby makin women who well give up their lives to have tons of little zelots !

Anonymous said...

Anyone who would throw stones at such a fine family as the Duggars is sick, evil. This family would never steal, rape, pillage, even speak an unkind word about someone, even foul freaks like yourself, who feel compelled to put together this rotten blog. YOU are the sick and evil.

Heidi said...

I completely agree. How do we know what God really wants?? I think they're a little nutty.. I mean, great having a big fam, but they took it a little too far and are trying to cash in on it. Seems like the children are more of a money making scheme and very cult like than actual kids. I was just on their website looking at their daily schedule and they get like an hour of free time per day..they spend more time reading the bible than anything..what kind of childhood are these kids having? Cooking, cleaning and taking care of each other?? Thats what it says on their site. I bet the children will all grow up crazy or wild because they had no childhood or decision making skills and are being treated like side show freaks...being taped all the time at such a young age.

Anonymous said...

I don't know the duggars at all, but I do know the bible, obviously none of you that are making horrible comments knows nothing about. they may not do things perfect to your thinking, but hello? your thinking DOESN'T count! this is between michelle, jimbob and jesus christ. if you don't know jesus you don't know what he asks of you so quit making mean comments about the duggars. I would love to sit in on your household all day long to see how lovely you act with your one or two children that you say you pay so much attention to. as for what they wear or their hair, if you read the bible it clearly states NOT to be overly mindful of these things. look nice, yes, caring what inconsiderate people say on a blog? no. by the way, to the person that said jimbob didn't go to church, he did state if you would listen they have HOME church with 1-2 other families. FYI church is not just found in a building, again if you don't know the bible you'll actually believe you must be in a building to make it legitimate. these people are raising their children up the Lord's ways and FOR the Lord. again, if you don't know Jesus, you don't understand what he expects from you. If these people were abusive physically or verbally and stuck their children in a cage, I'd be the first one on the band wagon in support. by the way, they were asked by discovery health channel and TLC to do these shows, I'm sure you'd all turn down the money they offered. liars if you say you would. remember, the next time you point a finger at someone, you got three pointing back at you and I'm sure in this world I could find everyone that made a bad comment atleast three that would love to point at you!

Anonymous said...

Every single time I hear about this family I am absolutely sickened. What responsible parent in their right mind could possibly think that they can give that many children the love and attention that they need and deserve.
I feel terrible for the girls in this family. Every growing girl benefits from a close relationship with their mother. I am extremely close to my mother and love the relationship we share, it makes me sad to think that their daughters are never going to have that sort of closeness.
They say that they are leaving their family planning up to God and see birth control as a sin? I think that them having 18 children is just as much of a sin. God wants his children born into families where they can get the proper love, care, and attention that they need and there is no way that the Duggars can provide that. They flat out said that the older children take care of the younger ones so I don't even want to hear them say one more time that this is what God wants.
I also think its wrong of some of the posters to say that because I use contraception that I'm going to spend eternity in hell. I know that God wants me to be happy and successful in life and he has no problem with me deciding that I want no more than 3 kids.
I just told a friend this morning that I have to wonder if Michelle and Jim Bob are right in the head. Anyone in their right mind knows that children need to be around other children in order to grow. They need to experience the evils that can be found in society. Their kids are so unprepared for the day they enter the real world. If they ever do enter the real world.
Also, to those who say that in the bible there are families who had 10+ children, that was eons ago. Times change!

momof4nanaof4 said...

I am just totally shocked at how judgmental many people are that are talking so badly about those they dont even know. It is horrible the things you are saying.Im always amazed at how the "world" looks at christians and are quickly ready to prosecute and hate them, oh but that
IS what
JESUS said would happen. Thank you for helping fulfill Gods word. Another thing, we will
ALL face God one day with the things we have said and the judgments weve made about others. It doesnt matter what religion we are, even the athiest will one day face God so we need to be careful the bible says our tongues are like double edged sword. Think about it instead of attacking everyone that doesnt say something nasty.

Anonymous said...

What I find astounding is that most religious people don't think for themselves. Don't you think God wants us to use the talents that he gave us. If he created everything, then he created scientific reasoning and technology. Birth control too! Perhaps, he doesn't want us to overpopulate the earth with more than his creation can handle. With many sick and starving, they chose to eat up the earth's resources with all their kids. They should have just adopted beyond two. The rest are selfish.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with you. I stumbled upon your blog by typing in ''Duggar cult'' in the google search bar. I've been wondering about this family for some time now. It appalls that they have a show on TLC, and people feel BAD for the mother, so they get all these donations, when it's the mother and father's choice to keep bringing kids into the world! simply because the parents keep having kids to add to whatever sick ''cult'' they have going on. In one particular episode, one of the daughters claimed they weren't allowed to cut their hair ''because their dad likes long hair''. What is that saying? First of all that just sounds sick, it sounds like some sort of polygamist cult! 2nd, by the dad saying that, it's already showing mind control. I heard about a polygamist cult, where many of the young girls where forced to marry at 14 and even though they were hurting on the inside and were hating their life, The catchphrase they were told was ''Stay sweet''. Perhaps this goes for the Duggar family as well, if they ''stay sweet'', appear happy, on tv, which will rank in the money, no one will ever know about their ''secret cult'' that goes on behind closed doors. No couple in their RIGHT minds would want to give birth to almost 20 children! Somthing isn't right here, they need to be exposed.

Anonymous said...

Hey Addy, ever hear about different strokes for different folks, to each his own, so forth and so on... Wow, as far as each being diffeent from the other, what a horrible thing it would be if we all had an attitude like yours. Children would be running around more out of control than they are, grownups would be saying really out of line things to, lets say thirteen year olds. I thank the lord for the way things are we are all different and have different ways of living and doing things. It would be a really sad thing if we all had to be just alike and we all ended up like you and have such a narrow minded hostile attitude. We can all express our opinions and ideas and judgements but you can also do it kindly. As far as telling the little girl ugly things about her spelling, I don't think this site requires a spellchecker, and she will learn those things in school, and she can also choose to talk to an individual about the Lord.

Anonymous said...

WTF is wrong with having EIGHTEEN offspring?
Well, here are a few things to start with: There are already more than Six and a half BILLION other human beings living on this planet. Just because you don't see what that is doing to the world, it doesn't mean that nothing is happening. Every major problem our species faces is made worse with every birth. None of them get better- and that's just considering the quality of life for human beings. For almost every other kind of animal life, it's already disasterous. Not just being crowded out of existence, but the horror of living and dying as a factory product instead of a living creature with the same need for freedom that is so precious to all the posters who see it as a right to make as many more of your own kind as you want.
Arg- I'm too outraged to go on pointing out the differences between real responsibility and narrow interests.
The information is easily available to anyone who cares to include it in their worldview.

Anonymous said...

one more thing- regarding the religious aspect of this, the same book that said "multiply" (when there were far less than even ONE billion people) also said that humans were responsible for stewardship of the Earth.
There's no way around the fact that the same people who praise the Duggars are failing miserably to live up to any standard of good stewardship. Most of them are clearly unaware of even the most basic truths about the state of the human population's impact on this world, when they should be the ones most knowledgable about the specifics of how well we're treating the magnificent creation we are part of.
Their words will continue to ring hollow as long as their definition of responsibility goes no farther than whether or not those children can have the things that other first-world children enjoy.

gagurl2206 said...

i watch the duggars on tv and i think they have a great family and she's a great mom so what yall say she pawns her kids off well thats not what she is doing they help her theres nothing wrong with that...i have 4 kids and the older ones help me they choose to.. cant none of you people bad mouth the duggars youre not there in her life you dont live her life so leave them alone.....i love the show and i think they are doing the best job raising there family

Anonymous said...

TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IN RE "WHAT RELIGION ARE THE DUGGERS'.

IT'S CALLED SEXAHOLICS.

ALSO, THE PARENTS MUST BE MENTALLY CHALLENGED AND HAVE THE KIDS ALL BRAIN WASHED. THE KIDS HAVE WEIRD, ARTIFICIAL EXPRESSIONS ON THEIR FACES. FAKE SMILES.THE WHOLE FAMILY APPEARS TO BE IN LA,LA LAND.

MY OPINION, ANYWAY.

Anonymous said...

my grandmother had 16 kids my mom was number 10 she did have that buddie thing where she was in charge of 3younger brothers food baths and she told me she hated it , she didnt get to do anything , they were very poor and wore hand me downs nothing ever new, my family is italian and catloic , why my gandmother had all those kids i dont no none of her kids did only one of her kids had 5.. all the others ranged from 1 to 3....but the duggers i feel that jimbob is a moron and thinks that he is something that he is not , michelle i think really is a nice person a real person and does beleive thats what she has to do, to make jim bob think he is this stud or something makes me sick, now there oldest son is married and the wife is preg , they are going to do the same thing grandchild and child same age...take notice they live with them , why cant they go out on there own, you know what if you did deep im sure your going to find that jim bob dugger is into a lot more than you think , strip clubs for one i can almost picture him sitting there..thats what type of guy he is !!!!!

Laura said...

I noticed the older girls wear a gold wedding band on their left ring fingers, what is up with that? Do they date? They do not have a high school diploma they take the GED exam at the age of 16. So there are about 6 kids in the family older than 16. What are they doing? No collage? What?

Anonymous said...

Stop dissing the Duggars! You don't know them. If you're going to talk about not letting kids do anything and being controloing go attack the Amish! I am 12 and I would love to dress modestly, swimsuits, clothes and all. But I go to a private school and it is impossible to get those skirts below the knee, but if I ever get forced back into public school, I will definately dress just as modestly as those girls. And the reason they wear homemade clothes is because it is almost imposible to find modest clothing for girls! And I would love to be homeschooled! Those kids do get to socialize, they have friends, and they go to the ATI homeschooling conference every year, that's where Josh met Anna. And for those of you who are judging the Duggars, they're not the only family like this, and you have NO right to judge them. The bible actually says women should have long hair, 1 Corinthians 11:15, look it up. I am old enough to confirm my faith at church, but I am asking questions first. And if you look at a lot of christians they are no more brainwashed than the Duggars.

Laura said...

Oh please. Although I believe the Duggar's are nice people/ I think the fact that Michelle should not have had 18 children unless she and Jim Bob could tend to them themselves. You don't keep having babies so your older kids have to watch them as if they belong to them. the Duggar's do not send their older children to college. They do not graduate high school, they take the GED at 16 years old and then they are finished with school. More time for Michelle's domestic chores. Going to a conference once a year is not being socialized. And do they ever get new bras and underpants? Or do they get those at thrift stores too?

Justlynne said...

Why is everyone bashing the Duggars. Look at how their children behave compared to other children you know. They dress modestly because they are not for sale, they are not going to go around showing their bodies off to some man on the street. The girls (particularily Jana) die their hair, and get perms and straighten it, they wear make up and are normal people, if your family was on tv, how would you like it if the Duggars bashed you? They could put you down for girls wearing pants or something, but they wouldn't. Leave their family alone, if they are "so bad" then don't bother talking about them.

Anonymous said...

Amen Sister!
Michelle doesn't take care of those kids, the older ones take care of the younger ones! The only thing she does is have one attached to her breast till the next one pops out.
And why don't they care about the planet? With an industrial size kitchen in the house with no doubt an industrial size dishwasher, do they use paper plates? Isn't there enough kids to wash the dishes or load the dishwasher?
If I was Michelle I would be online trying to find directions for a do it yourself vasectomy or castration for Jim Bob!

Nancy J said...

I have no problem with people having morals about sexuality and commitment. Nor even those who choose to have "as many children as God sends."

Michelle and Jim-Bob used birth control for at least 3 years (according to their website) and then after the birth of Joshua. They had that freedom to experience and discern what was and is right for them. But do their children? Both parents went to high schools (Michelle, to public school where she was a cheerleader!), but the kids can't?!

How can one learn to recognize and accept differences if they have no experience of it? Some differences can bring positives and much to learn of value by expanding our outlooks. Or even solidify faith and our morals and choices by seeing first hand what if not for us.

I fear the Duggar children have no tools for the world. After watching Joshua's "engagement" video, I am convinced both he and his fiance (now wife) were too young to get married. All the giggling, and her barely speaking a word. How ridiculous they were about a simple hug! When Joshua told her it was okay to hold hands because mom and dad said so, I cringed. Oh dear!

I see some moral "slip and falls" coming within the Duggar clan. As they say, "let he without sin cast the first stone!" So far, I've never met a person without sin. The Duggars are no different.

p.s. When I had only two small children and was a stay-at-home mom, I was exhausted at the end of the day! I doubt my husband could rouse me enough to get 19 kids! Jeez, how do they do it!

Nancy J said...

I have no problem with people having morals about sexuality and commitment. Nor even those who choose to have "as many children as God sends."

Michelle and Jim-Bob used birth control for at least 3 years (according to their website) and then after the birth of Joshua. They had that freedom to experience and discern what was and is right for them. But do their children? Both parents went to high schools (Michelle, to public school where she was a cheerleader!), but the kids can't?!

How can one learn to recognize and accept differences if they have no experience of it? Some differences can bring positives and much to learn of value by expanding our outlooks. Or even solidify faith and our morals and choices by seeing first hand what if not for us.

I fear the Duggar children have no tools for the world. After watching Joshua's "engagement" video, I am convinced both he and his fiance (now wife) were too young to get married. All the giggling, and her barely speaking a word. How ridiculous they were about a simple hug! When Joshua told her it was okay to hold hands because mom and dad said so, I cringed. Oh dear!

I see some moral "slip and falls" coming within the Duggar clan. As they say, "let he without sin cast the first stone!" So far, I've never met a person without sin. The Duggars are no different.

p.s. When I had only two small children and was a stay-at-home mom, I was exhausted at the end of the day! I doubt my husband could rouse me enough to get 19 kids! Jeez, how do they do it!

Anonymous said...

These "hillbillies" are unreal, the only time they will stop will be when the reality t.v.rights,book royalties, talk show circuit requests stop! Wake-up America we are feeding and supporting these irresponsible,selfish drains on society! They pay no taxes, will receive free college tuition, and be lauded as "heroes" for the masses, under the cloak of religious correctness.

Anonymous said...

You are quite typical of those who can't find fault in the facts. Let's go after their character. I see it all the time. "I am usually wonderful, but....., I just have to cut them down,...., I don't usually do anything like this, or "say anything....., but..., in this case I must." Stick your nose back into your own world and see if you can see the light through your navel.

Anonymous said...

May God forgive everyone of you who has said something negative about these people. God loves us all including those of you who have said something mean about this family. I feel sorry for you because if you had Jesus Christ has your personal savior, you would know exactly how these people feel and understand the convictions they have for themselves. I feel truly blessed to be able see them on TV and be encourage in my own walk in life.

valuable said...

To all of you maligning this family I ask "How do they matter to you?" How's your family?
I wish I had the guts to do what they are doing. They are practical christians taking Gods promises to them at face value. The man loves his wife and children. The woman loves her hurband and children. The children (all of them born legit to both of them) are all healthy, physically and emotionally. They are learning skill sets that will help them in real life. WHATS WRONG WITh THAT?
Your lives are messed up. You wish you had the lives they had. You wish you had children who would be respectful. You wish you had a spouse who would love you that way.
GROW UP PEOPLE. Take a little responsibility in life. Learn to appreciate goodness when you see it. Or is it that you are even past that point?

Anonymous said...

According to "Michelle", the children at third grade level go onto computer programs for their education. So much for her "home schooling". One episode aired the family going to a restaurant where there was some (cultural in nature) dancing...the family rolling their eyes and smirking. The oldest daughters are merely under educated baby sitters and housekeepers who will be married off by big daddy "Jim Bob" to whom he selects to then continually breed. None of these kids will go onto university or higher education. They are virtually held captive and controlled entirely by this cult leader wannabe.

Anonymous said...

I see something like this-The Gosselins--another TLC family--is being criticized on showing the bad in their kids. How do we KNOW that the DUGGAR kids would act the same. I don't really care for this show, but I watch J&K+8 a lot, even before this mess. They showed, unedited, what their kids act like! How do we know that we are looking into the lives of the most totally-holy-saints-that-publicize-everything, through a foggy abyss known as Final Cut Pro? This is just an opinion I think of when seeing anything bad about the Gosselins. Why aren't the Duggars being criticized for giving their babies to the older 6 year olds expected to take care of their 2 year old siblings. Something's fishy about this family. I don't know what it is-but I know that those kids are NOT the best most wonderful angels that were raised by baby angels before they were born. Just not gonna happen-whether they pray daily or not- kids just DON'T act like that... it is appalling.

john said...

I agree! There is something wrong with this family. They need to stop having kids and need to be investigate by child protective service. They act like a cult

Anonymous said...

You know usually when poeple get upset at Christian people they are not right with God nf thry are doing this because they know they should be more like them...I dont think it is right to critisize someone or to judge them for what they do..God says in the Bible not to judge one another because that is His job so if you think that what they are doing is wrong or how they behave is incorrect that is your opion and you should be gossiping about you should talk to the people or talk to God and read your Bible.. I dont think this is the proper way to deal with your feelings about this family..

Anonymous said...

In some ways I admire the Duggars' organization, clean living, and comraderie, and I see Jim Bob as a loving father, the kind of father I would like to have had. But here is my ultimate thought. It is their right to have as many children as they desire, just as it is an addict's right to be an addict. I have watched the show over the years, and I have come to believe the yearning for more children originates within Michelle, and is an addiction. I think Jim Bob is getting blamed for increasing the size of the family, when in fact it seems to be a form of pregnancy addiction, or even Munchausens, that Michelle has.Pregnancy provides Michelle with a great deal of constant, ongoing attention. She has had pregnancy hormones continously flowing through her for two decades now. There is God's will, and there is the free will God gave us. Michelle was not as excited as Jim Bob when Josh and Anna's pregnancy was announced. Competition between daughter-in-law and mother-in-law is very common, and with Michelle it could be played out in more pregnancies. Is the size of this family God's will, or is it Michelle's will and psychological need, abetted by the sin of pride and self-attention?

Anonymous said...

I am totally with you on this one. I saw that part about the buddy system. Obviously, she can't take care of them herself. It's really quite annoying, how many kids can one person have? Back in the day it was a necessity, perhaps, to have alot of kids because you never knew how many would survive. Now, they have them so they can do all the housework for them? Poor kids, I'd be embarrassed if I were them. I don't even want to begin to imagine how her insides are, yeah it's gross, but I still would like to know. You're not even supposed to get pregnant for like 3 years after a baby, you have to give your body enough time to recover. Also, when do they find the time to have sex? I'm grossed, out and annoyed at this family.

Anonymous said...

great website, most people are afraid to say the truth. Jim Bob does not care about his wifes health, and he is a pervert, Michelle is crazy, she must be on lots of prozac to have that stupid happy face on all of the time, are we to believe that they have no problems and it is just one happy family. How sad Job Bob keep it in your pants.

Anonymous said...

You know the really SAD thing is that now the oldest son Josh has married another BRAINLESS woman and they have had a baby. And they will repeat this cycle of having as many children as god allows, which is a crock of SHIT. Its not fair that these kids get no life no childhood of their own. because they spend there life looking after their little brothers and sisters. They dont know any different and its just sad. It so SELFISH to continue having babies till menopause when there is an increasing risk of down syndrome and autism. I think these people are completely BRAINWASHING there children. And it is disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Where does all this money come from to support all those people, it can't be from the tv show cuz that didn't start until after they already had many kids (17 I think)
So where did it come from then?

Anonymous said...

I would like to know how they got a house in the
country before tv money bought them one in town and if he has a real job what does he do?

Anonymous said...

um,,, excuse me! i've been reading through all the comments, and its making me sick. i am 14. (and to that retarded person who didnt believe the 13 year old,,,, i REALLY AM 14)everyone is acting like the duggar kids are just pets. but they're not. each is an individual person, with an individual purpose in life. each was born when they were for a reason. and it ISNT up to mr. and mrs. duggar whether they have more or not. each is a person all on their own. and each was meant to be a duggar. they each have a different life. they're not dogs. they're people! who is the giver of life? God wanted each one of those children to be born into that family, and each is. and there's nothing anyone can do about it. and if he has another one that is in his plan to become a duggar, than mrs. duggar will have another. i am a chritian, and have great respect for this family. and for those who dont,,,GET A LIFE!

Anonymous said...

Ok first of all you need to mind your own business...second of all you must have nothing better to do than to sit on the internet and make a post about someone elses family....third of all its not your body and you are nobody to judge and noone could give two craps what you think they are not going to stop having children just becuase this one speck of dirt out of billions on this earth (which is you) thinks they shouldnt. Peace

Anonymous said...

For those applauding the Duggars, who about the Michelle's missed or lost opportunity to contribute her talents to aid mankind?
She may have discovered the cure for cancer, had she been allowed to explore. She may have discovered new breed of seeds to help the world. She may have written a symphony. She may have conducted an orchestra.
Instead she's reduced to a baby making machine.
For those christians appalauding this travesty, remember the parable of the master who gave talents to his servants? And his reaction when he got back?
Being pregnant for 18 years straight is not a talent.

Anonymous said...

why is everyone getting so mad about this happy, well adjusted, loving family. who cares how many kids they have! its their life! they're happy. they love each other. all the kids are well taken care of, and loved, and physically and emotionally happy. so why all the fuss. just leace them alone. if michelle is hurting her body by having more kids, then thats her problem.

Anonymous said...

They are only allowed to read 2 books. The reverend spy and Before you meet prince charming. They have their own views on God and the Lord. I personally find the two kind of creepy looking. I wonder if there is any real passion between the two anymore. The kisses seem fake. He gives me the creeps. Oh well he isn't my husband. Those kids can't stay sheltered for the rest of their lives. This is a sick world and it will reach them some how. All we can do is educate our own children and arm them against the foes on this earth.

Allison in GA said...

I think you need a bracing reality check on public school.

I attend public school (I'll be a senior in my HS)
I have made A's and high B's my whole school career. (I've made the honer roll every year since the 3rd grade. I am not stupid.)
I have never had sex.
I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a gun or done any form of drugs. There has never been a shooting, bomb, etc. In my entire school life.
I am not obese; I run 3.50 miles every day on my treadmill (at least 3.50). And what makes you think that just because your kids are home-schooled, doesn't mean they can't become overweight?

Anonymous said...

You nailed it